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Last Jedi - Spoilers
« on: December 17, 2017, 01:24:46 pm »
As I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't yet seen it, I'm putting my thoughts in a separate thread (and if you haven't read the title, I'm going to repeat - SPOILERS!!!!)

Saw it this morning, and after all the hype felt it was good, but not as great as others seemed to think (Rogue One still remains the best of the 'new' movies)

Some thoughts

I mean I know Poe is supposed to be an ace pilot - but the destruction of the First Order ship was kinda lame, if they're as seriously as easy to knock out as that you wonder why they build them (I know Luke destroyed the Death Star, but he had the force and a built in design flaw!)

And speaking of Poe, I'm hoping the next trilogy movie starts with him being led to a stake and offered a last cigarette and a blindfold. Seriously he decides his boss is wrong and then holds her at gunpoint, what type of crappy discipline is that? (especially as she turns out to be right and his plan would have got them all killed). It was then worse that everyone treats him like some kind of misguided hero rather than a mutineer...

On a positive Laura Dern was great as the said Admiral and the other new starter in Rose had much more charisma with Finn than Rey ever had (perhaps they're setting up Rose and Finn to be the Han and Leia, recognising that Rey and him have zero chemistry between them). That said Daisy Ridley is much better than she was in the first and seems more confident and force like (and whilst I don't see them as a couple there is a dark bond between Rey and Kylo Ren)

Slightly disappointed that we won't find out who Snoke was (though I've heard arguments he's Darth Plagueis) - though it was a good set up for who the final villain is. More disappointed if what is said about Rey's parents is true - that seems to be a total let down after they were built up in the first movie (though it may be a misdirection)

And Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill remained excellent as ever. It's such a shame that this is Carrie's last movie - let's hope they can think of a way to write her out in style.

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Re: Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2017, 03:25:02 pm »
Rose and Finn had NO chemistry together! The 10 second hug between Finn and Rey was better than 40 minutes of Rose and Finn together.
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Re: Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2017, 03:34:03 pm »
Some things do seem strange, like; why do the bad guys wear armor that is useless against even the smallest blasters; how did they take over the galaxy when none of these 'trained' storm troopers can hit the broad side of a barn; they can't win any fight without a 10,000 to 1 advantage; all their admirals have the I.Q. of a rock, and as was just pointed out- all their top ships. and equipment is easily defeated. You just have to believe the force is totally against them. :)
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Re: Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2017, 03:40:17 pm »
The "casino planet' Sequence was out of place. However, loved how they set up DJ as a "rogue with a heart of gold" and instead, he sells them out first chance he gets. Plus, how their "genius plan" blows up in their face.

Still, as always, it's the tiny things that get you like Rey, a woman from a desert planet, happy seeing rain and such. Really was amazing and better on second viewing.

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Re: Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2017, 10:08:35 pm »
Still, as always, it's the tiny things that get you like Rey, a woman from a desert planet, happy seeing rain and such. Really was amazing and better on second viewing.

But how does she know how to swim? It's not like she's had time for lessons in the, what, 4 days since she left Jakku...

As for who Rey's parents are, that was one of my favorite reveals, and I hope Episode IX doesn't gut it and say Kylo was lying and she's really related to someone. That her parents are nobodies who sold her for money is a LOT more palatable than any established character from the OT giving away their kid for no good reason.
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Re: Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2017, 03:04:03 pm »
Some things do seem strange, like; why do the bad guys wear armor that is useless against even the smallest blasters; how did they take over the galaxy when none of these 'trained' storm troopers can hit the broad side of a barn; they can't win any fight without a 10,000 to 1 advantage; all their admirals have the I.Q. of a rock, and as was just pointed out- all their top ships. and equipment is easily defeated. You just have to believe the force is totally against them. :)
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Re: Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2017, 03:08:51 pm »
Well, Tarkin was actually more arrogant than idiot. But he's one of the few the Empire and First Order had that wasn't a a bozo.
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Re: Last Jedi - Spoilers
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2017, 04:41:58 pm »
all their admirals have the I.Q. of a rock

Whenever Hux was allowed to make decisions, the resistance was getting its ass handed to it.  When Kylo Ren (or even Snoke) took charge things went south.

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The "casino planet' Sequence was out of place

The casino thing was originally set up for an appearance by Lando Calrissian, but he got written out.
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